bullet summary: religious experience

  • william james wrote varieties of religious experience
  • he broadly defined them as “the feelings, acts and experiences of individual men
  • he did interviews to see the effects, and argued verification is not crucial because it is important and real to the person
  • he says they are psychological phenomena like thinking
  • james and william alston argue that something is real if it has real effects
  • james uses the effects as evidence for god, not as logical proof but supporting evidence
  • argues that they are central to belief
  • james summed them up by giving four descriptions: passive, ineffable, noetic, and transient
  • his conclusions were thus:
    • if the effects are real then the cause is real. god is real to those who experience him
    • if it is real it has positive effects
    • religious experiences are both of these
  • he compared similarities with hallucinations and dreams, suggesting re could be linked to our subconscious
  • the problem of other minds is that if you claim to have an experience you may be telling the truth, but i can’t experience it the way you do
  • i may know you to be truthful but i cannot say you are correct in your interpretation
  • sincere beliefs are not necessarily valid
  • richard swinburne argues for the a priori probability argument, that the existence of a god is higher than the likelihood of aliens so it should be taken seriously
  • this is very weak
  • he argued there are five types of experience:
    • common public objects through senses
    • unusual public objects through senses
    • private sensations we lack language for
    • private sensations we can talk about
    • through intuition
  • swinburne also argues for two principles:
  • the principle of testimony:
  • it makes sense to believe what people tell you because we tend to tell the truth (do we?)
  • if not, everyday conversations would be tough
  • is this really true?
  • religious testimony is not like other testimony
  • we are unlikely to believe claims of alien sightings, the possibility for error is higher
  • the principle of credulity:
  • if someone seems mentally sound, logically we would think they are
  • testimonies of re should be taken at face value unless there is evidence otherwise
  • but some argue religion itself is something which makes it more likely that someone will see things that aren’t there
  • antony flew criticised swinburne saying that he is simply making a cumulative case
  • using the analogy of leaky buckets, flew says arguments for god make a bucket
  • but the flaws are all holes and it is pointless trying to fill a bucket full of holes
  • j.l. mackie reminded us that people will unintentionally dramatise, exaggerate and mislead people with religious experiences.
  • further criticisms of swinburne are as follows
  • his principles are criticised as too optimistic and idealistic for us
  • j.l. mackie said that in the balance of probabilities it is more likely a person is mistaken
  • r.m. gale said re is not the same as normal experiences so normal rules do not apply
  • it makes god trivial and as believable as any dream
  • michael martin suggests swinburne’s principles here can be used to suggest god doesn’t exist.
  • bertrand russell says “from a scientific point of view, we can make no distinction between the man who eats little and sees heaven and the man who drinks much and sees snakes”
  • this show key claims that such experiences can be explained by scientific principles, not needing the supernatural, and can be stimulated by natural causes
  • there are different types of religious experience
  • a corporate re is one that happens in a public place to a group
  • an example is the 1994 toronto blessing in which people in a pentecostal church spoke in tongues, laughed hysterically and barked like dogs
    • numerically valid
    • show shared feelings and responses, more valid
    • suggests it comes from god, not imagination
    • more impressive
    • more verifiable, multiple testimonies
    • easier to verify because it is not private
    • effects are life-changing, surely they should be judged on this
  • but
    • in the toronto blessing, why would god show himself through hysterics and dog barks?
    • hank hanegraaff argues such phenomena are mass hypnosis
    • william sargeant argues mass religious conversions are due to conditioning
    • skeptics suggest it was mass hysteria
    • some people might say they can see or hear something and others join in just faking it
    • many have suggested the toronto blessing was hysteria and heightened emotions
    • critics suggest these do not line up with scripture, i.e. the holy spirit would not bring disorder to worship
  • personal experiences are self-explanatory… they relate to the swinburne and james’ view. these could be numinous or something like glossolalia.
    • can’t be mass hypnosis
    • can be personally authenticated
    • less likely to be conditioned
  • but
    • don’t appear as valid
    • no witnesses usually
    • lack of empirical evidence
  • rudolf otto argued for numinous experiences, saying god is transcendent and can only fill us with awe
  • this he calles the ‘mysterium tremendum et fascinans’, indescribable, mysterious and fascinating
  • numinosity is the sense of being in a greater presence, yet feeling separate from it
  • otto tried in his book the idea of the holy to identify what about re made it religious
  • he wanted to show it was fundamental to religion that people had a personal encounter as a reference point for interpreting the world.
  • immanuel kant criticised this saying we cannot use our senses to experience god since he is in the nominal world while we occupy the phenomenal world.
  • confusion regarding whether knowledge of god is gained through experience
  • ideological ideas come after experience
  • he implies that numinous is a once and for all, as if there can’t be more in the future
  • to suggest all religious experiences as numinous is limiting
  • teresa of avila had a mystical experience
  • she was accused of being sexually frustrated, so she self examined to see
  • she argues if that were true she would have been left disgusted but she wasn’t
  • “i was at prayer…when i saw christ at my side – or to put it better, i was conscious of him, for neither with eyes of the body nor with those of the soul did i see anything…but as it was not an imaginary vision, i could not discern in what form.”
  • james believed truth could be found in results and because conversion has such great effects, it counts in favour of religious claims
  • he argued sudden conversion is very real to the recipient
  • he said it felt more like a miracle than a process
  • even when james saw conversion as a process, he maintained that it was inspired by the divine
  • the most famous conversion is saint paul, who was struck off his horse and went blind as a voice cried ‘saul, saul, why do you persecute me?’ while he was on his way to damascus to persecute christians
  • he was nursed back to health and sight by christians, converted and became a great missionary
  • not all conversions are this quick
  • religious experiences can be interpreted in many ways
  • as a union
  • part of any mystical experience is a union with a greater power
  • the question is what is this union?
  • is it genuine?
  • people feel a sense of closeness and connection through it
  • as an illusion?
  • one of the difficulties is that re seems more likely to be an illusion
  • children have imaginary friends, adults hear voices sometimes
  • if someone wants something bad enough it can become reality
  • perhaps those who want to see god so badly, imagine it
  • a major criticism of re is the argument from psychology
  • advocated by sigmund freud, who called religious experiences wish fulfilment, referring to religion as a ‘universal, obsessional neurosis’
  • or as a physiological effect
  • this goes back to russell’s argument
  • drink, drugs, tiredness, illness, fasting and dehydration can distort our perceptions
  • our mental state is deeply affected by our physical one
  • people hallucinate on lack of sleep
  • some religious experiences are sure down to this
  • objections are numerous:
  • privacy of experience means we will never know
  • just because someone is sincere, doesn’t mean it is a correct interpretation
  • hume wrote about how humans like the unusual, and will make a story more and more dramatic with each retelling.
  • ineffability means a lack of clarity, how much weight can we give this? we are likely to misinterpret

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