- written as an intra-faith argument for men to solidify faith.
- there are limitations on a posteriori arguments and we cannot trust our senses
- for aquinas god is unknowable
- tries to understand god using only reason, a priori
- the claim is that god, by definition, exists.
- but can we go from definition to fact?
- proslogion 2 was aimed at believers, following anselm’s motto ‘credo ut intelligam’
- we must believe god exists to be able to understand him
- it is a prayer addressed to god
- poslogion 2 demonstrates that god exists
- anselm uses the definition that god is “that than which nothing greater can be conceived”
- the argument rests of accepting this definition, but why should we?
- anselm uses a painter to show the difference between having an idea and it actually existing
- it rests on the impossibility of contradiction
- he says even a fool would accept the definition
- explains the difference between things we understand and things which are understood to exist
- this is the fool’s position on god is that he knows what god i but doesn’t believe he is real, to anselm this is a contradiction
- the word god implies existence, so he must
- if god wasn’t real we could conceive a greater god.
- proslogion 3 shows god is who he says he is
- it emphasises that it is only possible to think of him as existing
- as humans we are contingent, but god is necessary and the only one of his kind
- he cannot be and not be at once, so he must be
- gaunilo, a contemporary, argued that anselm was wishfully thinking god into existence.
- he was a believer too but thought it was a weak argument.
- consider a perfect but lost island, so we are not sure if it exists
- it could be a contradiction to say it is perfect because it would have to exist
- so, if we think of something as perfect it has to exist
- this is absurd, the most perfect donut does not exist just because it is perfect
- anselm responded and he pointed out an island is contingent. it needs sand, sea etc.
- god is supremely necessary, so this argument on applies to god
- he should have added that the idea of a perfect island is flawed because perfect is subjective
- anselm also argued that thinking of god is not enough, he must be understood
- the fool can say there is no god but not understand because nonsense can make sense to a fool
- to a rational mind, ‘there is no god’ is nonsense
- aquinas criticises anselm and argues things are self-evident in two ways: it itself and to us
- we do not, and cannot, know enough about god to claim he is self-evident
- there is no way to demonstrate it, the way we can show a square has four sides
- our way to god is indirect
- descartes argued god is by definition perfect
- he must contain all perfections
- if existing things are more perfect, then god must have this perfection and must exist
- existing is a defining predicate on the concept of god, the same way a triangle needs three sides to be a triangle
- a god who does not exist would not be god
- kant responds saying if descartes is right there is no contradiction and no impossibility
- i could accept that IF god existed THEN he would exist necessarily, but that i did not believe in him
- existence is not a predicate at all
- by saying god exists nothing is added to the concept of god
- saying my cat exists is not meaningful as it would be if i say my cat is tabby
- real and imaginary £100 is still the same amount
- a predicate must add to the concept, but existence doesn’t